The folks over at RGE Monitor (Nouriel Roubini’s Blog) have compiled a list of those calling for a second fiscal stimulus plan. For purposes of discussion here at Raw Finance, and in honor of the season, we will refer to the proposed new package as “Bride of Stimulus.”
If we take away nothing else from the discussion of another stimulus package, we should at least be alert to the fact that the numerous, alarming calls for such government intervention on top of everything else that has been done thus far means that the economy is much worse off than any of us have seen yet – 400-point gain on the Dow today and Warren Buffett’s urging everyone to buy notwithstanding. However, before we get too euphoric and jump back in the markets with a big splash, consider the comments below with particular attention as to why another stimulus is necessary.
The pertinent part of the post at RGE Monitor is reprinted here for your convenience:
- Bernanke: Economic weakness in next few quarters and risk of a protracted recession call for a well-timed, well-targeted, cost-effective fiscal stimulus w/o raising the structural fiscal deficit; given tight credit conditions the stimulus must improve credit access to consumers, home buyers, firms
- Congress considering a ‘large’ (at least $150bn) fiscal stimulus after Nov 4 elections via extension of unemployment benefits beyond 39 weeks, food stamps and tax cuts for low-income groups, federal aid to state and local govts incl. medicaid funding to prevent spending/job cuts in public services or tax hike as economic downturn will worsen in Q408/Q109 led by contraction in consumer spending, rising state deficits and unemployment rate, weakening capex and exports and housing sector still far from recovery
- Roubini: need traditional Keynesian spending of $300 bn to boost pvt consumption so that an unavoidable 2-yr recession doesn’t become a decade long stagnation by hitting Main Street given pvt sector is not spending and first stimulus was ineffective
- Eichengreen: $700bn or 5% of GDP stimulus (income tax cuts and investment tax credits) given declining domestic demand, exports and interest rate approaching liquidity trap
- Krugman: Govt spending will boost the economy overtime since the current downturn will last long and further rate cuts will be ineffective
- Baker, Weisbrot, Appelbaum: Concerns over deficits during Great Depression prevented govt from boosting the economy; $300-400 bn (2-2.7% of GDP or amount of spending wiped out by decline in home prices) stimulus will avert deep downturn amid scarce capital, home wealth decline w/o raising interest rates or crowing out investment
- Berry: inflation adjustment to Social Security, Obama’s middle-class tax cut, grants to states will be more effective than capital gains tax cuts, tax credit for hiring firms, infrastructure spending, capital gains tax cuts, McCain’s mortgage refinancing proposal
- Merrill Lynch (not online): Stimulus will alleviate impact of unemployment on consumer spending, mortgage and other loan defaults; Goldman Sachs (not online): Stimulus won’t significantly impact growth outlook esp. in near-term if it is small in size
- Stimulus with largest bang for buck: Food stamps, unemployment insurance, infrastructure spending, aid to states, payroll tax holiday, tax rebate
- But transfers between govts involve delays, may be spent with a lag and mostly on less job creating services, used to pay down debt; also only up to 25% of infrastructure stimulus is usually spent in the 1st year, thereby limiting short-term impact; However, sustaining ongoing construction activity, repair and maintenance may keep jobs that would otherwise be lost during downturn
- $168 billion stimulus passed in Feb-08 temporarily boosted consumer spending and retail sales in Q2 (mostly May) but were a small share of GDP to stimulate the economy; less than 50% of rebates spent as consumers under financial pressure saved/paid off debt/spent on imports; Congress extended unemployment benefits in July by 13-26 weeks
- Thoma: Govt spending better stimulus to economy in short-term than tax cuts; Infrastructure spending will create jobs when the economy is in recession and also in recovery (unlike temporary impact of tax rebates); Aid to states will contain housing downturn
- Zezza et al: $450-600 bn stimulus over 3-4 quarters will temporarily boost the economy without creating inflationary pressure; FT: Need a time-efficient stimulus like tax rebates than infrastructure spending but might be constrained by fiscal deficit, public debt; pose risk of higher taxes, interest rates in future
- Knzn: Fiscal stimulus can prevent interest rate from falling too low and consequent asset boom, capital outflows, dollar weakness, import inflation; Blinder: Time lag, institutional factors make fiscal policy less superior than monetary policy but is more effective if nominal rates are too low or if large boost to demand is required
Some of the comments above refer, directly and indirectly, to inflation and deflation. In an upcoming post, I will discuss the nature and impact of both of these dangerous phenomena.

Predicting the Economy’s Future: “Challenging”
As much as I would rather not spend much time commenting on the stock market, it has become such a part of everyday life (more than 100 million people are invested in the market in some fashion), and it churns through such drama every day, that I also cannot avoid it. Lately, I have been reviewing certain companies’ earnings reports to glean some indication of where the economy may be headed in the next three to six months. It has been frustrating work, and continues to be so, which in and of itself, is a comment on the future. Here is what today brought:
On the tech side, after the market close, Google reported spectacular earnings for the third quarter. I am not going to go into the particulars because Google is such a popular stock to own that it trades at a price-to-earnings ratio that is unique to its stock. For those interested in a breakdown of Google’s earnings, Jim Goldman at CNBC.com has a fine article here. I won’t bother examining the financial companies because they are wretched, and will be for some time to come.
Where I want to focus attention is on one of the 30 component stocks of the Dow Jones Industrial Average. Elevator, air conditioner, and helicopter manufacturer United Technologies (UTX) reported third-quarter earnings of $1.36 per share (removing restructuring costs), beating analysts’ average estimate of $1.32. It also raised the low end of its full-year forecast, stating that it now expects 2008 earnings between $4.90 and $4.95 per share. The company noted that order rates were slowing, especially for elevators in North America, but worldwide heating and cooling equipment orders had increased. In a statement accompanying the earnings report, company president and chief executive, Louis Chenevert said, “In the face of ongoing economic challenges, we continue to aggressively cut costs and restructure our business.”
The earnings numbers and statements from UTX seem to echo those of other large-cap companies. The theme that is coming out of earnings reports thus far seems to be “current earnings are meeting expectations, but cost cutting will be necessary because no one knows how bad the worldwide economy will become.” The other theme that has emerged is that many companies’ shares are trading right at their current reasonable value, despite the overall market drop. For instance, UTX is trading around $49.50 [it had a big move at the end of the day today, closing a little above $52] per share, which translates into a price-to-earnings ratio of approximately 10 – right at the industry average.
Some stock market experts are pushing the notion that now is the time to buy into the market, arguing that, historically speaking, the market will recover soon. Those experts may be right and they may be wrong. What current earnings and stock price valuations seem to be telling us is that the market does not know what’s coming next. And that is because just about every company that has reported solid earnings has stated that the near future will be “challenging.” I’m dismissing companies that have reported poor earnings because they are already challenged. I don’t know of anyone who can put a number on “challenging.” So, to buy into the market is to buy solely on hope. I am not commenting on whether that is right or wrong – some investors, like some of the experts, may be comfortable with that. I prefer to wait until we begin to see a lasting uptrend. Sure, that means I probably will not buy at the exact bottom. I can live with that however. What I cannot live with is having 10 to 20 percent of my investment hacked off within a matter of days, and being stuck with hoping that it will come back.
I will leave you with a list of articles that may offer a glimpse into the economic future:
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